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How's that subject line? Inflammatory enough? :)
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From NPR, a list of 5 common parental worries that are extremely unlikely, and the top five risks for kids: the gap between the two is the source of much anguish, bad policy, and danger:

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Based on surveys Barnes collected, the top five worries of parents are, in order:

1. Kidnapping
2. School snipers
3. Terrorists
4. Dangerous strangers
5. Drugs

But how do children really get hurt or killed?

1. Car accidents
2. Homicide (usually committed by a person who knows the child, not a stranger)
3. Abuse
4. Suicide
5. Drowning
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Well, it's not an innuendo, so I approve smile

It's interesting that drugs (and alcohol) don't feature as the top five ways for children to get hurt. It's different here, I guess.

And why are parents so worried about school snipers? Didn't that happen, like, once total?
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It depends on your definition.
For instance, hard drugs have been linked to depression and suicide.
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Samuel Tow wrote:

And why are parents so worried about school snipers? Didn't that happen, like, once total?


This was actually not an uncommon occurrence at my High School. I can remember at least 5 separate occasions during the four year span I was there that the school was locked down because of bomb threats, shooting threats, a sniper with a hostage in the apartments across the street, etc. There may have been more that I'm forgetting.
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Samuel Tow wrote:
And why are parents so worried about school snipers? Didn't that happen, like, once total?
The study blames media fear-mongering and expresses the same incredulity you did. Frankly the real threat to children is media fear mongering.
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Marq ... I am shocked that you would blame the responsible media for alerting parents to the dangers that children face every day. Just look at this clip ...

"Media fearmongering or serious threat?"
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flaming mad I'm a little "Cheesed off" right now, about this report........I must check my little ones for urine smells. Wait, that's normal for 2 yr olds.....nevermind. big grin
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Y'know, not to be a jerk about parenting, since I don't have any kids....


....but maybe if some of America's parents SPENT TIME with their kids, instead of dumping them in front of TV's, video games (not that they're bad, because I obviously don't think they are), and other people. Then the various 'family values' groups can stop blaming comic books, video games, tv shows, and other entertainment on the way the kids grow up.


Oh, and maybe stop leaving them in cars in August because they 'forgot'.


*PS* I am obviously not talking about anyone here, don't get yer panties in a knot smile
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Y'know, not to be a jerk about parenting, since I don't have any kids....


....but maybe if some of America's parents SPENT TIME with their kids, instead of dumping them in front of TV's, video games (not that they're bad, because I obviously don't think they are), and other people. Then the various 'family values' groups can stop blaming comic books, video games, tv shows, and other entertainment on the way the kids grow up.


Oh, and maybe stop leaving them in cars in August because they 'forgot'.


*PS* I am obviously not talking about anyone here, don't get yer panties in a knot :)


*did I leave my camera on? How did you know about the panties?* scary jaw dropping
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Just checked.
Mine are fine, thanks.
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MiseriChik wrote:
Oh, and maybe stop leaving them in cars in August because they 'forgot'.


*PS* I am obviously not talking about anyone here, don't get yer panties in a knot :)


Mis, I'm curious about your use of quotation marks around 'forgot.'
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marqaha wrote:
Samuel Tow wrote:
And why are parents so worried about school snipers? Didn't that happen, like, once total?
The study blames media fear-mongering and expresses the same incredulity you did. Frankly the real threat to children is media fear mongering.


Well, in my case, I'm honestly just guessing. Outside of the Discovery Channel, I really don't have access to American media at all. That's where I learned about the only sniper killer I'm aware of (dubbed "the sniper," I believe), who turned out to be two assholes shooting people from the boot of a car, who may or may not have been doing it to cover up the murder of guy's wife. That's the extent of my knowledge.
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Just checked.
Mine are fine, thanks.
Your panties?

MiseriChik wrote:
Oh, and maybe stop leaving them in cars in August because they 'forgot'.
Frankly I wish more people would forget...
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Add to the fears the digestive tracts of the children from McDonalds.
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Oh, and maybe stop leaving them in cars in August because they 'forgot'.


*PS* I am obviously not talking about anyone here, don't get yer panties in a knot :)


Mis, I'm curious about your use of quotation marks around 'forgot.'



Because I fail to see HOW on this green earth ANYONE could forget a human being (or dog for that matter) IN THEIR CAR!? I put the quotes around it because it shocks me that anyone could be that forgetful.

( I know you're being facetious, but I'm just ramming that statement home wink )
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Samuel Tow wrote:
marqaha wrote:
Samuel Tow wrote:
And why are parents so worried about school snipers? Didn't that happen, like, once total?
The study blames media fear-mongering and expresses the same incredulity you did. Frankly the real threat to children is media fear mongering.


Well, in my case, I'm honestly just guessing. Outside of the Discovery Channel, I really don't have access to American media at all.

Seriously, Sam, DC and the Food Network are all that are worth watching IMO.
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MiseriChik wrote:
Y'know, not to be a jerk about parenting, since I don't have any kids....


....but maybe if some of America's parents SPENT TIME with their kids, instead of dumping them in front of TV's, video games (not that they're bad, because I obviously don't think they are), and other people.


It's not always that easy though, as many parents these days are single (moms, mostly) and working two jobs to support their family. For a very long time now, the trend in this country has been towards a widening of the gap between the rich and the poor, and the shrinkage of the middle class. Frankly, I believe our economic policies are to blame, and Congress for being beholden to big money.

Or as someone once pointed out to me, 90% of the time, when someone ask 'Why?', the answer is Money.

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Oh, and maybe stop leaving them in cars in August because they 'forgot'.


*PS* I am obviously not talking about anyone here, don't get yer panties in a knot :)


Mis, I'm curious about your use of quotation marks around 'forgot.'



Because I fail to see HOW on this green earth ANYONE could forget a human being (or dog for that matter) IN THEIR CAR!? I put the quotes around it because it shocks me that anyone could be that forgetful.

( I know you're being facetious, but I'm just ramming that statement home wink )


I actually wasn't being facetious.

How does it happen? Hell, it's the sort of brainfart every single one of us has done, and if you say you never have, I won't believe you. "Did I [turn on the coffee maker/set my alarm clock/turn off the porch light/whatever]? Of course I did; I do that every day." Your memory of the general occurrence 'fills in' a memory of the instance. It's just that for most of us, when we make that mistake the consequences are none-to-minor (I have to wait another 5 minutes for the coffee machine).

We all make mistakes, but most of our mistakes are ones we can live with.

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It's just that for most of us, when we make that mistake the consequences are none-to-minor (I have to wait another 5 minutes for the coffee machine).
YOU CALL THAT MINOR? WTF? YOU ANIMAL!
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It's just that for most of us, when we make that mistake the consequences are none-to-minor (I have to wait another 5 minutes for the coffee machine).
YOU CALL THAT MINOR? WTF? YOU ANIMAL!


I... I only left the kitchen for a minute...! jaw dropping
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Oh, and maybe stop leaving them in cars in August because they 'forgot'.


*PS* I am obviously not talking about anyone here, don't get yer panties in a knot :)


Mis, I'm curious about your use of quotation marks around 'forgot.'



Because I fail to see HOW on this green earth ANYONE could forget a human being (or dog for that matter) IN THEIR CAR!? I put the quotes around it because it shocks me that anyone could be that forgetful.

( I know you're being facetious, but I'm just ramming that statement home wink )


I actually wasn't being facetious.

How does it happen? Hell, it's the sort of brainfart every single one of us has done, and if you say you never have, I won't believe you. "Did I [turn on the coffee maker/set my alarm clock/turn off the porch light/whatever]? Of course I did; I do that every day." Your memory of the general occurrence 'fills in' a memory of the instance. It's just that for most of us, when we make that mistake the consequences are none-to-minor (I have to wait another 5 minutes for the coffee machine).

We all make mistakes, but most of our mistakes are ones we can live with.

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And none of those items are alive. Even though the dog sleeps in the car, I wouldn't even be able to get OUT of the car without remembering there's a living being in the back seat.

*shrug* I get your point though.
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Marq, you rock. Simple as that.
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marqaha wrote:
Samuel Tow wrote:
And why are parents so worried about school snipers? Didn't that happen, like, once total?
The study blames media fear-mongering and expresses the same incredulity you did. Frankly the real threat to children is media fear mongering.


Well, in my case, I'm honestly just guessing. Outside of the Discovery Channel, I really don't have access to American media at all.

Seriously, Sam, DC and the Food Network are all that are worth watching IMO.



Travel Channel, and lately BBC America! smile
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Take one life.
Add kids.
Subtract one life.

The insanity that ones life becomes when you add kids to the mix can not be compared to owning pets or any other life experience. I believe that the majority of the stories that involve people leaving kids in the car also involve people who probably never should have had kids in the first place, but I can see somebody getting so brain fried by the stress that kids can introduce into your life that they would honestly forget and leave them in the car.

I guess I would be a lot more likely to forget about my kids than my dogs though!
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"The media is the problem!"

"It's all about money!"

"Save the environment!"

All bullshit.

Kids are the problem.

The #1 problem facing every country on this planet is overpopulation. It's what's screwing up the environment. It's what's causing economic collapse around the globe. It's to blame for the spread of disease and the lack of even rudimentary infrastructure in many parts of the world.

There are too many people, and yet we still view reproduction as an accomplishment, treating it as a worthwhile and productive way to spend a life. We really need to stop that.

And it has nothing to do with class, either. Too many rich, entitled layabouts is just as bad as the welfare mother of 6 that can't get out of the way of a hurricane because her family's primary mode of transportation is flip-flops.

When I was a kid, they taught us in school that there were 4 billion people on the planet. Today we're approaching 7 billion. An increase of over 67% in world population in 30 years. That is INSANE. We're literally fucking ourselves into oblivion.

My brother and his wife have 5 kids and I never stop giving him shit about it. They had 4 in 6 years. His wife once said to me, "We just love babies! Look at her! How can you not want a thousand of her?"

And I said, "Okay, you love babies. I get it. But what if you really fucking hate teenagers? You're gonna have just as many of those. And how are they each going to pursue their interests? With 5, how can you possibly get them all to different practices and games and recitals, and so on? How are any of them going to develop individual relationships with their parents?"

My life is a mini-representation of the effects of overpopulation in that I went into business with my brother after 7 years of helping him whenever I could because I feel obligated to help make sure his family is taken care of. And that's the world. Whether you have kids or not, your life is encroached upon because of other peoples' inability to control themselves.

A hefty portion of every tax dollar collected in the world goes to supporting other peoples' children.

I am in no way anti-kid. I think kids are great. I just want a refund, is all.
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Hmmm...

Maybe the answer is to have cars that automatically lock the doors once the driver exits and the external temperature is above ninety degrees. No more blame and population conrol rolled into one!
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No because some moron like me would disable the device and get blamed for "overpopulation".......big grin

Besides that doesn't address the "flip-flop mode of transportation" issue.........unless.......we make flip-flops, too expensive for the "poor" to afford and make automatic door locks standard equipment and reduce the cost of cars by, like, 1000%. This way we change the paradigm.....big grin..........nevermind........go about your business, pay no attention the fool blink posting this "progressive" idea. paranoid
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This is a great opportunity to present a website that's been in my bookmarks for over a decade.

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World overpopulation is a myth.
Certain countries definitely have issues, but there are huge tracts that could be colonized if people actually cared to help each other out. Much of the Earth simply isn't being used. Politics has more to do with it than population.

Here in Canada the immigration doors have been thrown open, relatively speaking, because once our baby boomers retire we simply won't have enough population to sustain what we have right now. It would surprise me if the States were much different.
'Regular' Canadians actually have a lower population growth than many species on the endangered list.

Same with hunger. World hunger isn't due to a lack of food, but a lack of care. Those of us who have want the best prices so we don't share. When we do, local dictatorships confiscate it and use it to keep their population under thier thumbs.

I could find you evidence for all of this but I really don't want to put the mental and emotional effort into it right now. Forgive me. I've had a tiring week due to work, not my kids. Thankfully it's almost the weekend.
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