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Check out the newest LotRO trailer!



Some of that is cut scene but it should be clear what part is gameplay. And yes, the game really is that pretty. big grin

Remember, they're going free to play on Friday and you have a couple of guides ready to help you get your feet wet.
Just send me message and we'll figure out a time to meet up on the Nimrodel server.

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So Per, I finally got on and rolled a human hunter last night. Played through most if not all of the tutorial, I think. When is that tutorial over? I'm lvl 7 and about to get into the real content (I think). We just finished the battle at Amchet where the Nazgul take Amidor and I'm sure we will start out to rescue him. I'm still getting used to the UI and am enjoying the story very much. Perhaps we can join up for the beginning of a fellowship.

On a Tech note, I did get map-served once last night and had a wierd problem with the first Hunter I rolled, an Elf. Somehow I was booted from the tutorial way early and was in the campaign with a lvl 1 toon. Not a fun experience. Anyhow, started again with the Human and had no problems to this point.

I think I will reroll the Elf for a different AT, perhaps a Warden or Champion. Opinions?
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Embedded the Movie for those of us a bit too lazy to click the link wink
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Thanks Pax.

Griff, if you've gone through the burning of Archet then you're in main world now. Any of us can visit or join you. You will eventually go to save Amidor, but it's not a quest arc you go on immediately.

That's a weird problem with the Elf. Never heard of that one.
I love my Warden, but it's a bit like dual wield in CoH without the nice helpful glowies around then buttons. You only get 3 or 4 attacks and have to remember the combinations of them to unlock other attacks during the fight. Some people don't enjoy trying to remember that.

Champs are fairly soloable, having both melee dps and armour. Fairly straight forward. My highest (lvl 55) is a champ and he's fun. I like the dual wield more than the two handed, but that's me.


What's your toon's name?

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I found this even cooler trailer:
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Per, my Hunters name is Griffderrick and the Wardens name is Griffondel. I know you appreciate the connection to my User name. big grin I have a title for the Hunter, but not for the Warden, yet. I am finding no problem with the Warden attacks. You just have to watch your attack pattern. The hunter seems easier to run, but I often find myself resorting to melee to finish the battle. This is a bit concerning, because I'm sure later on it will not be as easy to defeat the enemies. Haven't got to the point to appreciate the different boosts you get from the draughts, etc. I'm sure that will be appreciated later, as well. All in all, having a blast solo, but would like to do some team events with Vent to get some questions answered.big grin
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I'm back on as well, I am playing Gulliver a lvl 58 Captain. So we should create a new kinship or something...
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Just finished the tutorial this morning. lvl 7 Champion.
name is Nickari

Rolled a hunter originally, but I deleted him. Might end up doing another. or something else smile
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Would you guys be open to a Friday or Sat. night run? I could even do a Monday night, but it limits the time. I know Ember was talking about a Friday for the Task force this week, so it may needs be Sat. if most of us can make it. Let me know what would work for you guys and I'll post the event.
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No worries Griff, the third part of the TF is set for two weeks away and is a one time deal smile Have fun with LotR, guys! Wish I could join you but it's not Mac friendly as far as I could tell.
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I'm moving furniture Friday. Why don't you book a LotRO event for Saturday night?

As for melee and the hunter, as you level and train you'll get more ranged abilities, traps, etc., which can help keep you out of melee longer. Expect to have to finish the fight in melee until you get some of those abilities.
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if you guys are looking for meon lotro here are my character name
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Marqa-edit: Quoting a spammer is no better than spamming. This website accepts no responsibility for the virus you may have gotten when you clicked the links in Griff's quote. wink


What......? Cab someone explain, please. Confused Griff shrug confused
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Deleted a couple of missed spam posts. Also edited Griff's post. Sorry Griff. You know what they say: Everytime you quote a spammer you're quoting every person that spammer has had sex with.
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MY HERO! smile


And btw, hysterical spammer post smile
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To avoid being a party pooper (too late), I'll just say this: I'm getting burned out on Fantasy games something fierce, to the point where I don't think I could play them even for free, and it's not just MMOs, but Fantasy games in general. Unless they do something beyond standard Fantasy tropes and Tolkein reruns (or in this case Tolkein originals), then I just can't bring myself to try them out. Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura was an interesting take on High Fantasy, but practically everything else in the genre is still just "fantasy."

I don't want to say anything bad about LOTRO itself, since the game could dispense solid gold bars and I still wouldn't be excited about it, meaning any judgement I could try to levy would be hugely biassed. But it's about as High Fantasy as High Fantasy gets, and that's just... Ugh!
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Understood, Sam.
One of the reasons I play it is because it is based on the real deal. Tolkien is the archetype from which sprang most of what we consider contemporary fantasy, so if that's what you're having trouble with it's understandable.
Like you said, it's not a comment on either the game or the lore.

For me it's more like coffee, though. I may try other drinks from time to time, but I always end up at coffee... same for me and Tolkien. I don't forsee myself getting sick of it, even if I do try something else for a while from time to time.
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I actually just checked out LOtR from the library and should start reading it very soon. Have you read the book, Per?
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For me it's more like coffee, though. I may try other drinks from time to time, but I always end up at coffee... same for me and Tolkien. I don't forsee myself getting sick of it, even if I do try something else for a while from time to time.


This reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend of mine recently. I've been trying to get him into City of Heroes for years, and even shared my one-time buddy code with him, but it never seems to take with the guy. Originally his complaint (which I probably misunderstood) was that he liked "that" in World of Warcraft, which he described as loot grind and raid grind. I figured that since City of Heroes now has that, it was as good a time as any to bring the question up again, but to my surprise, his actual argument appears to be that he simply likes fantasy and doesn't enjoy the more contemporary, more sci-fi theme of City of Heroes.

At this point, I realise it's probably a lost cause to try and recruit this friend of mine, but it just demonstrates the point where tastes diverge. To be perfectly honest, I've never been a fan of Fantasy, not even when I was a kid. I used to tolerate it with games like Diablo, Dungeon Siege and Revenant, but I've never actually seen the theme of one of those games and had THAT sell it to me. Maybe it's because I grew up with shows like the Swat Kats, the Centurions, the 90s Fox X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons, the Thunderbirds 2086 anime and so forth, or maybe it's because my parents exposed me to movies like Aliens, Star Wars, the Running Man, Total Recall and the like when I was a kid, but I've always had a soft spot for "out there" sci fi and not much else. Hell, I even followed some of Star Trek: The Next Generation on TV when I was, like, 12. And it's been really disappointing to me that "space" movies just aren't made any more. About the closest we have that's even REMOTELY recent are the Event Horizon and Supernova movies, neither of which is all that great.

We don't even have games like these. Homeworld as AGES ago, and Masters of Orion was ages before even that. I haven't seen a decent Wing Commander or Descent Freespace game in years and years. Or, for that matter, a Descent-style game, the latest being Descent 3, which is probably contemporary to the original Half-Life. Dead Space is actually pretty decent, as far as "space sci-fi" goes, but that's still just one contemporary game.

When it comes to MMOs, though, or even just basic RPGs, it's all Fantasy all the time. I have SOME degree of hope for the Warhammer 40 000 MMO, at least in terms of thematic, but I've seen gameplay from it and it more resembles WoW in space. Tolkein's Lord of the Rings is indeed classic, and probably one of the greatest works of literature and fictional universe. But it's like being told pie is the greatest foodstuff in the world, when I'd honestly really have cake, instead. In the spirit of Seinfeld is unfunny (read: it's probably not, but may seem so to people who've never seen it), I blame contemporary fiction's oversaturation with Fantasy for my extreme dislike of Tolkein's work. I really can't criticise it, it's just that I want something else by this point. And there really aren't all that many MMOs that offer that.

It's getting to the point where I feel like game designers can't design RPGs unless they involve swords, axes and bows in some fashion.
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I actually just checked out LOtR from the library and should start reading it very soon. Have you read the book, Per?


I bet he has, and more than once big grin
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I actually just checked out LOtR from the library and should start reading it very soon. Have you read the book, Per?


I bet he has, and more than once :D


Which book did you get? There are at least three major books to that story....and tons of side stories as well.
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Lololololol......

So I'm guessing you haven't checked out my podcast.... wink

I've read it a ton of times.
The very first published story, which ties in because it's where Bilbo finds the Ring, is the Hobbit, and was actually written for Tolkien's kids... the writing style is obviously for younger readers.
The LotR is actually six books in 3 volumes, The Fellowship, The Two Towers, and the Return of the King, same as the movies.
Other than some poetry and a few short stories, the rest of Tolkien's fiction was collected and published posthumously by his son, Christopher Tolkien. The most definitive history (but it reads like a history book) is the Silmerillion. The most recently published full on fiction is the Children of Hurin, and is well worth the read if you appreciate a good tragedy. Definitely a Greek tragedy kind of vibe to it near the end. Tolkien was also the foremost expert on older Scandinavian languages and has an interesting translation/harmonization of the Norse legends.
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Busted! Lol, no I haven't checked out the podcast yet...

I got the full series of LotR- all 3 volumes in one GIANT book with REALLY tiny print. It should be a fun read smile I guess I should have gotten The Hobbit first but I just finished watching the LotR movies again and got an urge. I'll have to check out the others you mentioned too. I've never read anything by Tolkien so I'm hoping that it's not too much all at once.
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It could be overwhelming if you're not really a reader. I'm getting the impression that you'll be ok though. big grin
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Tolkien narrative is too slow and he like to flourish too much over some minor details.

But it is an awesome read. I read them betwen The Fellowship and Two Towers movies and i must say The movies are very well adapted and some details were changed so the story climax on the right time for the movies and some things were left off, like Tom Bombadil (thanx God!!!)

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Shaaktar wrote:
Tolkien narrative is too slow and he like to flourish too much over some minor details.


This in general is my problem with much of the most famous literary works that I've been exposed to. I've been called impatient before, but the older I get, the less of a stomach I have for stories faffing about with what I consider utter trivial. Tolkein appears to be most praised for being the first to create an entire fictional universe with story, lore, languages, details, descriptions and everything in-between. We've seen quite a few "expanded universe" constructs written since his time, and I can saw without a shadow of a doubt that I do not care one smidgen about any of them.

Again - that's not to slam the guy or his work. Even I'm not dumb enough to discredit years of critical acclaim and legions of supporters. But it ain't for me. Maybe I'm dumber, maybe I'm simpler, maybe I'm just impatient, but I simply don't care for precise details much of the time.

For instance, take the movie Armageddon. Everyone who's seen it - including people who like it - will admit that it's stupid, it makes no sense, the science is soft enough to spread on sandwiches and the acting is Shatner hammy. But I LOVE this movie for the amazing pace that it has, with literally not a moment when something truly interesting isn't happening. Even when nothing is happening... Things are still happening! Things I feel I should care about. Most other movies have long stretches of time when I'll start to drift off, strike up a conversation with the other people watching or yell at the screen that I get it, get on with it please. Not that movie. I barely get a spare second to think about how stupid it is smile
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Wow.
How do I follow that?

Ok... so nothing against you Sam. I definitely understand where you're coming from, I just don't happen to be there... at all... what you seem to be describing is something I would ascribe to the current generation in general. "It didn't entertain me fast enough." There are times when that's what I'm looking for, sure, but limiting myself to that means I would miss a lot of the story, as well as the satisfaction and peace I get from reading. For instance, while I can appreciate what Jackson did visually for the LotR movies, there are themes, histories, character developement, etc., you just don't get with the movies, or even if you read the books too quickly.

Sure, I enjoyed Armageddon for what it was, but I couldn't bring myself to compare it to any serious piece of communication.
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