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Coalition Night: Hami Raid

Magia's picture
10/22/2008 - 8:00pm
10/22/2008 - 10:00pm
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Hami Raid! Enough said smile. We need a lot of people there!

PS: When you register, please tell us which archetype you will bring.


Shaaktar's picture

is it possible to do it with

is it possible to do it with a villain?
Magia's picture

Shaaktar wrote:is it

Shaaktar wrote:
is it possible to do it with a villain?

Ops, sorry, this will be a hero event (lvl 45-50).

I have 4 heroes capable of

I have 4 heroes capable of getting into the Hive: Gatecrasher (Inv/SS Tanker), Generator (Elec/Elec Blaster), Kid Tesla (Kin/Elec Defender), and Thunderkiss 65, a PB (who is only 45). Assuming I'm free for this (I am currently expecting I will be), any and all of them will be at the group's disposal.

Later on,
Gatecrasher
Magia's picture

I'll bring whatever is

I'll bring whatever is needed but dual boxing my empath defender and the mind/empath troller might be a good idea for the tanker team.
Shoboshi's picture

I'm looking forward to

I'm looking forward to getting back into the swing of things. It's been too long since I've played. I'm also just about guaranteed to ding 50 on it, too.

 

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Watchdog's picture

I should be able to make it.

I should be able to make it. I'll bring a tanker.

 

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Banxi's picture

I'll be there (though my

I'll be there (though my poor copy of Fable 2 will be quite sad as I still haven't had a chance to play it yet).

I will probably ding 50 within 10 minutes of starting this. smile I only have 300,000 or so xp to go. First level 50 character for me!

 

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Inferno Ant's picture

Banxi wrote:I'll be there

Banxi wrote:
I'll be there (though my poor copy of Fable 2 will be quite sad as I still haven't had a chance to play it yet).

I will probably ding 50 within 10 minutes of starting this. smile I only have 300,000 or so xp to go. First level 50 character for me!


Good luck Banxi! And pre-gratz!
Magia's picture

Unfortunatelly we didn't

Unfortunatelly we didn't have enough people to kill Hami this time. Thanks to everyone that came to try it, let's analyze what happened and if we could have done anything different to kill it smile.

From Adversity I saw:
Magia
Banxi
Shoboshi
Jags
Syl
Nano
Amy
Rock
Gopher

PS: Please post if I'm forgetting someone.
Magia's picture

And Rockgut now has the 25

And Rockgut now has the 25 SG events badge! Congratz smile.
Razorstrike's picture

Magia wrote:Unfortunatelly

Magia wrote:
Unfortunatelly we didn't have enough people to kill Hami this time. Thanks to everyone that came to try it, let's analyze what happened and if we could have done anything different to kill it smile.


Sounds like it was simply a numbers game. Something came up last night and kept me from joining.

 

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Moxy's picture

Gratz Rockgut- sorry I

Gratz Rockgut- sorry I couldn't make it.
Hexen's picture

It may have been the lack of

It may have been the lack of numbers, IDK, but I think there was something wrong with the raid. All the scrappers were droping toggles, that never happened at the other raids we ran.

 

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ooo. Sorry for missing this

ooo. Sorry for missing this one. I look forward to jumping in on the HAMI2 if it manifests though.

~Red~
Razorstrike's picture

Hexen wrote:It may have been

Hexen wrote:
It may have been the lack of numbers, IDK, but I think there was something wrong with the raid. All the scrappers were droping toggles, that never happened at the other raids we ran.


If no Emps, Kins, Thermals or Sonics were buffing Scrappers with Clear Mind, Increase Density, Thaw or Clarity or if none of the Scrappers had Break Frees on them, then toggle dropping is to be expected.

From the raiding 101 thread...

Quote:
The 'Yellow Mitos' pack the most offensive punch, outside of the Nucleus. The Antibodies have a PBAoE damage power as well as a very long ranged AoE damage power. Both of these powers are able to stun a Scrapper through their mez protection, so addtional status protection powers (Clear Mind, Increase Density, ect) are needed.

 

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Hexen wrote:It may have been

Hexen wrote:
It may have been the lack of numbers, IDK, but I think there was something wrong with the raid. All the scrappers were droping toggles, that never happened at the other raids we ran.


We didn't even have 20 people by the end there. I suspect even if those that were there were the perfect mix of ATs, it still would not have been enough to take down Hami.

This sort of failure makes for good story telling though. Sets up the second act where Adversity and the Impossibles exact their revenge on Hamidon smile

 

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Magia's picture

Yeah, a pickup tanker on my

Yeah, a pickup tanker on my team was asking if he really needed EoEs, because last time he had tanked Hami, a couple of months ago, he didn't need them. He insisted so much that I told him to go test the waters. He died in 3-5 seconds and understood what we were talking about smile.

Minimal mix?

Tanker team: 2 empaths, 2 tankers
Scrapper team: 1 tanker, 1 empath, 6 scrappers
Ranged team: 4 blasters, 4 controllers

Total: 20

But, of course, if you multiply that by 2, you will have a better mix smile. And other kinds of defenders will fit into the scrapper or main team easily.
Razorstrike's picture

Is that what showed up last

Is that what showed up last night or what you are saying can be the minimal amount to show up and be successful?

 

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Magia's picture

Minimaml amount. We weren't

Minimaml amount. We weren't very far though:

Tanker team: 2 empaths (1 dual boxing and trying to coordinate the raid), 4 tankers
Scrapper team: 1 tanker, 7 scrappers
Ranged team: 6 blasters/controllers plus Ice triple boxing some crazy AT combo smile

Maybe without the multi boxing...
Razorstrike's picture

I see. Well I would say for

I see. Well I would say for any future raids, if there are not at least 26 people (I would prefer at least 30 to be safe) then it is not worth doing.

You definitely want to have as close as possible to having at least have 16 people on the main raid force so that there is a good mix of offense and defense.


There is also no need to have any Tanks on the Scrapper team - make it 6 Scrappers and 2 support characters instead.

 

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Doc Rock MD's picture

Sweet, finally the coveted

Sweet, finally the coveted 25 badge! Woot!

Okies, now on to the meat of the matter.. It seems to me that what we were sorely in need of Defenders. The Mito's had a 95 to hit my blaster, and I imagine it was similar on many others. We were going up against Mike Tyson with no footwork! I would love to bring my FF Defender, but he's still a level short of 45. The way I see it, we need 3 or 4 Defenders buffing our Defenses to pull this off. Also, my dispersion bubble gives Stun, Hold, and Immob protection PBAOE, which would possibly help also. Any thoughts on this?
Magia's picture

A bubbler is very good for

A bubbler is very good for the main force, with the big bubble giving status protection. Also, with enough empaths, we'd have many RAs.
Razorstrike's picture

Rockgut is watching

Rockgut is watching wrote:
Sweet, finally the coveted 25 badge! Woot!

Okies, now on to the meat of the matter.. It seems to me that what we were sorely in need of Defenders. The Mito's had a 95 to hit my blaster, and I imagine it was similar on many others. We were going up against Mike Tyson with no footwork! I would love to bring my FF Defender, but he's still a level short of 45. The way I see it, we need 3 or 4 Defenders buffing our Defenses to pull this off. Also, my dispersion bubble gives Stun, Hold, and Immob protection PBAOE, which would possibly help also. Any thoughts on this?


Like Mags said, the only thing that would really help from a FF Defender is Dispersion Bubble. Since almost every attack the Mitos and Hami have are untyped damage, any defense or resistance is useless. The only thing that will do any good are lots of aura heals, regen buffs and status protection powers.

 

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