Submitted by Gatecrasher on Mon, 10/13/2008 - 5:06pm.
I have 4 heroes capable of getting into the Hive: Gatecrasher (Inv/SS Tanker), Generator (Elec/Elec Blaster), Kid Tesla (Kin/Elec Defender), and Thunderkiss 65, a PB (who is only 45). Assuming I'm free for this (I am currently expecting I will be), any and all of them will be at the group's disposal.
Submitted by Shoboshi on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 9:54pm.
I'm looking forward to getting back into the swing of things. It's been too long since I've played. I'm also just about guaranteed to ding 50 on it, too.
Unfortunatelly we didn't have enough people to kill Hami this time. Thanks to everyone that came to try it, let's analyze what happened and if we could have done anything different to kill it .
From Adversity I saw:
Magia
Banxi
Shoboshi
Jags
Syl
Nano
Amy
Rock
Gopher
Submitted by Razorstrike on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 9:29am.
Magia wrote:
Unfortunatelly we didn't have enough people to kill Hami this time. Thanks to everyone that came to try it, let's analyze what happened and if we could have done anything different to kill it .
Sounds like it was simply a numbers game. Something came up last night and kept me from joining.
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It may have been the lack of numbers, IDK, but I think there was something wrong with the raid. All the scrappers were droping toggles, that never happened at the other raids we ran.
Submitted by Razorstrike on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:38am.
Hexen wrote:
It may have been the lack of numbers, IDK, but I think there was something wrong with the raid. All the scrappers were droping toggles, that never happened at the other raids we ran.
If no Emps, Kins, Thermals or Sonics were buffing Scrappers with Clear Mind, Increase Density, Thaw or Clarity or if none of the Scrappers had Break Frees on them, then toggle dropping is to be expected.
From the raiding 101 thread...
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The 'Yellow Mitos' pack the most offensive punch, outside of the Nucleus. The Antibodies have a PBAoE damage power as well as a very long ranged AoE damage power. Both of these powers are able to stun a Scrapper through their mez protection, so addtional status protection powers (Clear Mind, Increase Density, ect) are needed.
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Submitted by Captain Croatia on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 2:07pm.
Hexen wrote:
It may have been the lack of numbers, IDK, but I think there was something wrong with the raid. All the scrappers were droping toggles, that never happened at the other raids we ran.
We didn't even have 20 people by the end there. I suspect even if those that were there were the perfect mix of ATs, it still would not have been enough to take down Hami.
This sort of failure makes for good story telling though. Sets up the second act where Adversity and the Impossibles exact their revenge on Hamidon
Yeah, a pickup tanker on my team was asking if he really needed EoEs, because last time he had tanked Hami, a couple of months ago, he didn't need them. He insisted so much that I told him to go test the waters. He died in 3-5 seconds and understood what we were talking about .
Submitted by Razorstrike on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 3:48pm.
I see. Well I would say for any future raids, if there are not at least 26 people (I would prefer at least 30 to be safe) then it is not worth doing.
You definitely want to have as close as possible to having at least have 16 people on the main raid force so that there is a good mix of offense and defense.
There is also no need to have any Tanks on the Scrapper team - make it 6 Scrappers and 2 support characters instead.
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Submitted by Doc Rock MD on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:56pm.
Sweet, finally the coveted 25 badge! Woot!
Okies, now on to the meat of the matter.. It seems to me that what we were sorely in need of Defenders. The Mito's had a 95 to hit my blaster, and I imagine it was similar on many others. We were going up against Mike Tyson with no footwork! I would love to bring my FF Defender, but he's still a level short of 45. The way I see it, we need 3 or 4 Defenders buffing our Defenses to pull this off. Also, my dispersion bubble gives Stun, Hold, and Immob protection PBAOE, which would possibly help also. Any thoughts on this?
Submitted by Razorstrike on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 4:05am.
Rockgut is watching wrote:
Sweet, finally the coveted 25 badge! Woot!
Okies, now on to the meat of the matter.. It seems to me that what we were sorely in need of Defenders. The Mito's had a 95 to hit my blaster, and I imagine it was similar on many others. We were going up against Mike Tyson with no footwork! I would love to bring my FF Defender, but he's still a level short of 45. The way I see it, we need 3 or 4 Defenders buffing our Defenses to pull this off. Also, my dispersion bubble gives Stun, Hold, and Immob protection PBAOE, which would possibly help also. Any thoughts on this?
Like Mags said, the only thing that would really help from a FF Defender is Dispersion Bubble. Since almost every attack the Mitos and Hami have are untyped damage, any defense or resistance is useless. The only thing that will do any good are lots of aura heals, regen buffs and status protection powers.
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is it possible to do it with
Shaaktar wrote:is it
Ops, sorry, this will be a hero event (lvl 45-50).
I have 4 heroes capable of
Later on,
Gatecrasher
I'll bring whatever is
I'm looking forward to
__________________I should be able to make it.
__________________I'll be there (though my
I will probably ding 50 within 10 minutes of starting this.
__________________Banxi wrote:I'll be there
I will probably ding 50 within 10 minutes of starting this.
Good luck Banxi! And pre-gratz!
Unfortunatelly we didn't
From Adversity I saw:
Magia
Banxi
Shoboshi
Jags
Syl
Nano
Amy
Rock
Gopher
PS: Please post if I'm forgetting someone.
And Rockgut now has the 25
Magia wrote:Unfortunatelly
Sounds like it was simply a numbers game. Something came up last night and kept me from joining.
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Gratz Rockgut- sorry I
It may have been the lack of
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ooo. Sorry for missing this
~Red~
Hexen wrote:It may have been
If no Emps, Kins, Thermals or Sonics were buffing Scrappers with Clear Mind, Increase Density, Thaw or Clarity or if none of the Scrappers had Break Frees on them, then toggle dropping is to be expected.
From the raiding 101 thread...
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Hexen wrote:It may have been
We didn't even have 20 people by the end there. I suspect even if those that were there were the perfect mix of ATs, it still would not have been enough to take down Hami.
This sort of failure makes for good story telling though. Sets up the second act where Adversity and the Impossibles exact their revenge on Hamidon
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Yeah, a pickup tanker on my
Minimal mix?
Tanker team: 2 empaths, 2 tankers
Scrapper team: 1 tanker, 1 empath, 6 scrappers
Ranged team: 4 blasters, 4 controllers
Total: 20
But, of course, if you multiply that by 2, you will have a better mix
Is that what showed up last
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Minimaml amount. We weren't
Tanker team: 2 empaths (1 dual boxing and trying to coordinate the raid), 4 tankers
Scrapper team: 1 tanker, 7 scrappers
Ranged team: 6 blasters/controllers plus Ice triple boxing some crazy AT combo
Maybe without the multi boxing...
I see. Well I would say for
You definitely want to have as close as possible to having at least have 16 people on the main raid force so that there is a good mix of offense and defense.
There is also no need to have any Tanks on the Scrapper team - make it 6 Scrappers and 2 support characters instead.
__________________They never let poor Rudolph join in any reindeer games.
Sweet, finally the coveted
Okies, now on to the meat of the matter.. It seems to me that what we were sorely in need of Defenders. The Mito's had a 95 to hit my blaster, and I imagine it was similar on many others. We were going up against Mike Tyson with no footwork! I would love to bring my FF Defender, but he's still a level short of 45. The way I see it, we need 3 or 4 Defenders buffing our Defenses to pull this off. Also, my dispersion bubble gives Stun, Hold, and Immob protection PBAOE, which would possibly help also. Any thoughts on this?
A bubbler is very good for
Rockgut is watching
Okies, now on to the meat of the matter.. It seems to me that what we were sorely in need of Defenders. The Mito's had a 95 to hit my blaster, and I imagine it was similar on many others. We were going up against Mike Tyson with no footwork! I would love to bring my FF Defender, but he's still a level short of 45. The way I see it, we need 3 or 4 Defenders buffing our Defenses to pull this off. Also, my dispersion bubble gives Stun, Hold, and Immob protection PBAOE, which would possibly help also. Any thoughts on this?
Like Mags said, the only thing that would really help from a FF Defender is Dispersion Bubble. Since almost every attack the Mitos and Hami have are untyped damage, any defense or resistance is useless. The only thing that will do any good are lots of aura heals, regen buffs and status protection powers.
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