Need help w/respec for lvl 50 ICE/STORM
Posted on: Wed, 08/20/2008 - 3:29pm
Anyone have a Spec guide for primarily pve stuff; that is recent? I6 was a completely different game. So...
My current spec has all the powers out of my secondary pool (Storm) It's an ok build, but I'd like to do a major overhaul... currently If I were to repec, I'd probably just switch super jump to fly and get hasten back...
My current spec has all the powers out of my secondary pool (Storm) It's an ok build, but I'd like to do a major overhaul... currently If I were to repec, I'd probably just switch super jump to fly and get hasten back...
a.k.a. @Magius
Any preference on the epic pool?
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I didn't grab the immobs, especially the AoE, since they will screw up Ice Slick (the ice immob, much like the fire immob, prevent KB/KD for those not in the know).
I put in Shiver, but you can swap it with Arctic Air if you like...either one when combined with Ice Slick is almost like a ghetto hold - they slow things to a crawl so they can't really attack or even really move.
Lastly, the slotting is set up to take advantage of purple IO's if you are into those. To me, for most powers with IO's you really only need to 5 slot, unless you're looking for certain bonuses.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.40
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Level 40 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- EoCur-Acc/Rchg(A), EoCur-Acc/Hold(3), EoCur-Acc/Hold/Rchg(3), Hold-I(5), RechRdx-I(5)
Level 1: Gale -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: O2 Boost -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(11)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(A), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(7), EndRdx-I(15)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- Acc-I(A)
Level 8: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A), Flight-I(15)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- UndDef-DefDeb/Rchg(A), UndDef-Rchg(17), UndDef-DefDeb(17), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(19), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(19), LdyGrey-%Dam(40)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Hurricane -- DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(A), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(23), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(23), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(25), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(25)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 26: Glacier -- EoCur-Acc/Rchg(A), EoCur-Acc/Hold(29), EoCur-Acc/Hold/Rchg(29), RechRdx-I(31), Hold-I(31)
Level 28: Shiver -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(A), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(31), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(33)
Level 30: Flash Freeze -- CSndmn-Acc/Rchg(A), CSndmn-EndRdx/Sleep(34), CSndmn-Acc/EndRdx(34), CSndmn-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(37), CSndmn-Sleep/Rng(37)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- Acc-I(A), BldM'dt-Dmg(33), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), BriL'shp-Dmg(34)
Level 35: Tornado -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(36), Dmg-I(36), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(39), Dmg-I(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
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Set Bonus Totals:
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Your right about the AoE holds not working well with Ice slick, but they Do work well with both Tornado & lightning storm.
I wouldn’t go with fly because this build works better with acrobatics.
O2 boost is ok to have, but it is skippable.
Shiver is not worth having because you get enough slows from the other powers to cap it.
Flash freeze is a sleep, and situational at best, I’d skip it.
Here is my build; I didn’t update it with slots, that’s up to you.
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Block of Ice Acc(A)
Level 1: Gale Empty(A)
Level 2: Frostbite Empty(A)
Level 4: Snow Storm Empty(A)
Level 6: Arctic Air Empty(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping Empty(A)
Level 10: Steamy Mist Empty(A)
Level 12: Ice Slick Empty(A)
Level 14: Super Jump Empty(A)
Level 16: Freezing Rain Empty(A)
Level 18: Hurdle Empty(A)
Level 20: Hurricane Empty(A)
Level 22: Health Empty(A)
Level 24: Stamina Empty(A)
Level 26: Acrobatics Empty(A)
Level 28: Hasten Empty(A)
Level 30: Glacier Empty(A)
Level 32: Jack Frost Empty(A)
Level 35: Tornado Empty(A)
Level 38: Lightning Storm Empty(A)
Level 41: Indomitable Will Empty(A)
Level 44: Thunder Clap Empty(A)
Level 47: Grant Invisibility Empty(A)
Level 49: Invisibility Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
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__________________@Lord Hexen
Sleeps are situational, yes, but considering alternatives...it's something you can toss 5 purple IO's into (cheaply I might add) and get great bonuses.
__________________They never let poor Rudolph join in any reindeer games.
__________________They never let poor Rudolph join in any reindeer games.
Open with Ice slick and lay down the freezing rain, team runs in and the battle begins. Toss out the Frost bite to immob what’s left, open a lightning storm and sling tornadoes all while NOT knocking anything out of melee from your team mates.
Again, not knocking your play style, just looking at it from a diff side.
__________________@Lord Hexen
I'd like to show why I picked ice mastery. First, theme. I'm not usually sucked into theme, but the idea of the ice skating rink of DOOOOOOoooooom is just too good to pass up. In addition, Frozen Armor, with CJ + Maneuvers + 3% Steadfast Protection gives you at least 33% defense to smashing/lethal! Many mezz attacks are associated with S/L damage, so you'll find that many mezes just aren't hitting like they used to. I use this idea to great effect with my fire/kin/stone troller who runs with 35.9% defense to S/L and kicks council with great prejudice. Although there is decent +res in Steamy Mist, the +defense often gives better mitigation for a squishy b/c mezzes are more likely to miss.
With that in mind, I could see Razor's build doing quite nicely, but here's my quick build.
SS
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.4006
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Splashdown: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice
- (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
- (3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Recharge
- (5) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Endurance/Hold
- (7) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Hold/Range
- (9) Hold Duration IO
- (11) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Gale- (A) Empty
Level 2: Frostbite- (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
- (3) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
- (15) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
- (15) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
- (17) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
Level 4: Snow Storm- (A) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
- (5) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 6: Arctic Air- (A) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
- (7) Malaise's Illusions - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
- (19) Cacophony - Chance of Damage(Energy)
- (29) Malaise's Illusions - Endurance/Confused
- (31) Endurance Reduction IO
- (31) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 8: Hover- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (9) Flight Speed IO
Level 10: Steamy Mist- (A) Karma - Knockback Protection
- (11) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (46) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 12: Ice Slick- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
- (13) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Fly- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (46) Flight Speed IO
Level 16: Swift- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (17) Flight Speed IO
- (31) Flight Speed IO
Level 18: Health- (A) Healing IO
- (19) Healing IO
Level 20: Stamina- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (21) Endurance Modification IO
- (21) Endurance Modification IO
Level 22: Freezing Rain- (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (23) Recharge Reduction IO
- (23) Recharge Reduction IO
- (25) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
- (25) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
Level 24: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (27) Recharge Reduction IO
- (29) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 26: Glacier- (A) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold
- (27) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold
- (34) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge
- (34) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
- (34) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge
- (37) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 28: Hurricane- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (37) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 30: Maneuvers- (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
- (37) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 32: Jack Frost- (A) Accuracy IO
- (33) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Damage Increase IO
- (33) Damage Increase IO
Level 35: Tornado- (A) Damage Increase IO
- (36) Damage Increase IO
- (36) Damage Increase IO
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO
- (40) Recharge Reduction IO
- (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 38: Lightning Storm- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Accuracy IO
- (39) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Damage Increase IO
- (40) Damage Increase IO
- (40) Damage Increase IO
Level 41: Ice Blast- (A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (42) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (43) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
Level 44: Frozen Armor- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (45) Endurance Reduction IO
- (45) Defense Buff IO
- (45) Defense Buff IO
- (46) Defense Buff IO
Level 47: Ice Storm- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (48) Recharge Reduction IO
- (48) Recharge Reduction IO
- (48) Damage Increase IO
- (50) Damage Increase IO
- (50) Damage Increase IO
Level 49: Hibernate- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (50) Recharge Reduction IO
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- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 1: Containment------------
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Give me a couple hours I'll post my spec.
SS
Since I can't log in it's doesn't looked can Show my build that easily.
I couldn't take a screenshot of my powers so I decided to take a picture instead. I hope this worked out where you can see the names of the powers in the picture.
If not... Eventually I'll resubscribe to the Titan thing so I can use the character builder...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Chottoboy21/Picture083.jpg
In any case it looks like you got your work cut out for you...
To make it easier just go with my build though
__________________They never let poor Rudolph join in any reindeer games.
How are you surviving with no End reduction in Steamy mist!?
Freezing rain does not need 3 Acc, I find it hits all the time and I only have 1 in it.
1acc 1End 3Defdebuff & a damage proc
__________________@Lord Hexen
In any case it looks like you got your work cut out for you...
To make it easier just go with my build though
When I tried to do a screenshot in my Enhancement managment screen it wouldn't take the picture. I have no clue to the reason.
I wish I new my account logon for Mid's hero designer and I could post my old spec but it didn't have DPS at all but nothing moved when I was on a team.
I am working on putting my spec on Mids hero designer... Currently I don't have IO sets so keep that in mind...
I think my main issue is that I've gotten lazy so I always take fly. When I originally started playing back in 2004 I always got super jump because it's a pretty fast travel power... The COT caves drove me to the fly power set.
Once I find a build, then I'm going to start working on IO sets for this toon.
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Dvt: Level 48 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Block of Ice Empty(A)
Level 1: Gale Empty(A)
Level 2: O2 Boost Empty(A)
Level 4: Snow Storm Empty(A)
Level 6: Combat Jumping Empty(A)
Level 8: Swift Empty(A)
Level 10: Steamy Mist Empty(A)
Level 12: Ice Slick Empty(A)
Level 14: Super Jump Empty(A)
Level 16: Health Empty(A)
Level 18: Freezing Rain Empty(A)
Level 20: Hurricane Empty(A)
Level 22: Stamina Empty(A)
Level 24: Hasten Empty(A)
Level 26: Glacier Empty(A)
Level 28: Thunder Clap Empty(A)
Level 30: Hover Empty(A)
Level 32: Jack Frost Empty(A)
Level 35: Tornado Empty(A)
Level 38: Lightning Storm Empty(A)
Level 41: Fissure Empty(A)
Level 44: Rock Armor Empty(A)
Level 47: Earth's Embrace Empty(A)
Level 49: Hurl Boulder Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
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This should be my current build.. I'm respecing today.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.4006
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Level 48 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Block of Ice Empty(A)
Level 1: Gale Empty(A)
Level 2: O2 Boost Empty(A)
Level 4: Snow Storm Empty(A)
Level 6: Frostbite Empty(A)
Level 8: Hover Empty(A)
Level 10: Shiver Empty(A)
Level 12: Steamy Mist Empty(A)
Level 14: Ice Slick Empty(A)
Level 16: Freezing Rain Empty(A)
Level 18: Swift Empty(A)
Level 20: Health Empty(A)
Level 22: Fly Empty(A)
Level 24: Hurricane Empty(A)
Level 26: Glacier Empty(A)
Level 28: Stamina Empty(A)
Level 30: Hasten Empty(A)
Level 32: Jack Frost Empty(A)
Level 35: Tornado Empty(A)
Level 38: Lightning Storm Empty(A)
Level 41: Fissure Empty(A)
Level 44: Rock Armor Empty(A)
Level 47: Earth's Embrace Empty(A)
Level 49: Teleport Foe Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
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